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fuel injection problem on my R18FE

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I went and did the valve adjustment on my R18 per the videos on YouTube. When I removed the spark plugs, the left was black and wet, the right was perfect. It wont start when hot after a ride in very slow traffic...I motoscanned it and no error codes.
Please help...!!!
 
Wet as in oily wet?
I am not a mechanic and I don’t believe it is the case with the R18 but older boxers had a tendency to leak a bit of oil into the left cylinder (side stand is on the left)
The trick back then was to let it idle for 10 or 15 seconds with the bike standing upright before switching the engine off. If oil is present it may interfere with the spark, even though the cylinder has two. Maybe rings are letting through a tiny bit of oil into the chamber or the valves. Unless something drastically wrong, chances are that the machine is not generating an error code. I would, and this is just me, with the engine cold, take the plugs out and clean them. Put them back and go for a ride. When you get back, let it idle for 10/15 seconds with the bike upright and then switch off. Wait for a bit, have a beer and then switch the engine on and see what happens. If it starts, let it cool of and then check the plug again to see what condition is in. If dry then you know what was causing the wetting. In any case, after that I would have taken it to a mechanic for a proper look but you may carry on with the new habit to see how much can you ride without issues.
Keep us posted.
 
Welcome Joe, I see you have a nice BMW stable and while the R18 certainly is at the other end of the spectrum from your RS and S it should add a great option and a bunch of fun riding.

Some more background may help.

She's not under warranty?

How many miles on her, have you had it since new and was the valve check part of routine servicing at the recommended interval or was the hard starting the motivation to verify the state of tune/adjustments were proper?

If the hard start was the reason, was this a sudden change/problem or gradually becoming worse?

It's not uncommon to get some bad petrol that could cause an injector problem, but odd to be so disparate between the two cylinders unless a some serious crap happen to lodge in the one that won't clear and continually impacted the spray pattern. But, the fact that the plug is wet would indicate fuel is at least being delivered so that leaves spark and air to be investigated. Now that you know the valves are in spec I would keep things simple before any deep dives are done. Verify there is no obstruction in the air intake (mouse nest, shop rag, etc.), and install fresh spark plug. Make sure the battery connections are clean and snug and also the ignition and plug wire connections aren't loose by giving them a simple push and pull. I'd also add some good injector cleaner (Techron, SeaFoam, etc.). I'd start her and see how she's running and if all OK I would try to ride enough to put a couple of tanks of gas with added injector cleaner through her and assess from there.

If you have a GS911 tool or similar that you could check for stored codes may be helpful. Also, if the problem persists I would pull the injectors and switch sides to see if the problem follows the injector and if so have it/them tested/cleaned.

Good luck, try to keep it simple and methodical and please let us know what you find.🍻🍻

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Thanks to both of you who replied to my queries.
I have 8000 miles on it.
bought it second hand.
it was not oily wet, rather gas wet.
I will try to swap the injectors, that is a good idea.
software wise, it there anything I can do to fix this ?
Does anybody know if it is a single control loop or is it two independent loops since there are four O2 sensors, 2 for each cylinder ?
Do they use a similar system in other recent boxers like the R1300 ?
Sorry about all these questions, but since there is no service manual...
Really appreciate your help.
 
Thanks to both of you who replied to my queries.
I have 8000 miles on it.
bought it second hand.
it was not oily wet, rather gas wet.
I will try to swap the injectors, that is a good idea.
software wise, it there anything I can do to fix this ?
Does anybody know if it is a single control loop or is it two independent loops since there are four O2 sensors, 2 for each cylinder ?
Do they use a similar system in other recent boxers like the R1300 ?
Sorry about all these questions, but since there is no service manual...
Really appreciate your help.
Software is above my pay grade, but my swag is this is a hardware issue and if it were me I would do the simple troubleshooting steps first. I would replace that fuel soaked plug as part of the first steps taken. Modern plug materials and high energy ignitions can only go so far and if fouled/saturated being combined with the other items suggested above you want to easily eliminate a “dead” spark plug while assessing your poor running.
 
Just to throw in my 2¢ as well ... I agree with Bob to keep thinks simple. I like your idea of swapping injectors and seeing if the problem 'follows' the injector ... I really don't think that this is a software issue ... oh and btw. you do have 2 spark plugs per cylinder ;)
 
Just to throw in my 2¢ as well ... I agree with Bob to keep thinks simple. I like your idea of swapping injectors and seeing if the problem 'follows' the injector ... I really don't think that this is a software issue ... oh and btw. you do have 2 spark plugs per cylinder ;)
Hi Ulrich,
I only found one coil and one spark plug per cylinder...
 
Hi guys,
Good news.
I swapped the injectors and the problem went away.
I don't know how to explain it, but I have pictures of the fouled spark plug before and after to prove it.
I rode 170 miles and looked at the park plugs.

IMG_4257 fixed plug.webpIMG_0899 fouled plug.webp
 
If I had to guess, there may have been a loose connection or less likely a bit crud dislodged during your activities. Glad it worked out for you and thanks for sharing the outcome! 🍻
 
Wow that is one fouled plug!!! Did you switch both on each side? .. you have a total of 4 spark plugs on that bike ... btw IMO the other side doesn't look so great either ... What in the world did the previous owner put in the gas tank? Turpentine??
 
I agree. To be honest, I would have expected to see a bit of soot but the spark plugs seem to have a surface rust?
Ethanol may have caused that? Maybe is not rust and the engine was running lean?
I steer clear of E10 in the UK. Exclusively E5 because one can’t get pure gasoline (petrol for us in the UK)
 
Wow that is one fouled plug!!! Did you switch both on each side? .. you have a total of 4 spark plugs on that bike ... btw IMO the other side doesn't look so great either ... What in the world did the previous owner put in the gas tank? Turpentine??
Excellent point(s)! I was going to ask if he had changed plugs after pulling them for the photos as that residue is nasty from whatever elixir was been forced down her throat.
 
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