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So today I decided to install the luggage rack that came with my bike. I bought my R18 used and it already had the Road Styler backrest installed. It had the luggage rack, but it was uninstalled. I'm thinking this is maybe a 15 minute exercise, after all, its only four bolts in and out. Or so I thought.

My first indication that something was wrong was that all four of the Allen bolts were slightly wallowed out and the nuts were very difficult to loosen. I was able to get one of the nuts off only to find that the previous owner had liberally applied red loctite to the nut. With the nut off, I tried to back out the Allen bolt and it was stuck solidly in place. It appeared that the bolt got a pretty generous application of red loctite where it threaded through the upright for the backrest.

About two hours later, with the assistance of a torch, I have everything disassembled. I had to heat the remaining nuts to get them off with a wrench. The bolts could not be removed with an Allen wrench, so I had to grind off the bolt head with an angle grinder and a flap wheel. Once the head was off the bolt, the remaining stud could be removed with heat and a pipe wrench.

The torch destroyed the powder coat, so I had to sand down and feather the powder coat to get it ready to be painted. I had to order an M8 x 1.25 tap so the threads in the back rest frame could be re-tapped. That won't be here until tomorrow. In the mean time, I've repainted the parts and they will be ready for reassembly tomorrow when the tap gets here. Also, a trip to the hardware store set me back $64 to get the necessary chrome and stainless hardware to reassemble everything.

The moral of the story, don't use red loctite on anything that you ever plan to disassemble. Blue loctite holds great and it can be disassembled with hand tools. As a side note, the bags had to come off to get this work done. In order to get the bags off, the seat had to be removed and multiple zip ties cut. BMW needs to spend some time looking at how Harley Davidson and Indian attach backrests and tour packs. As much as I love my R18, this is a glaring missed opportunity for BMW. It would be very nice if they would design and offer a docking solution.
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Sorry for your troubles. I was able to connect the backrest brackets by unbolting the bags and resting them on the exhaust. Didn’t touch the wiring or seat. Tough getting my sausage fingers behind the bracket but got it done. I didn’t use lock tite because I also bought the handlebar piece, wasn’t sure if I’d like the backrest look and not sure if my regular passenger might decide I’m an ass so it’s solo riding again. Checked the bots after a short ride, loose, tightened a little more, good so far.
 

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I definitely could have gotten the brackets off without completely removing the bags, but I didn't want to work in a tight space and risk hitting a painted surface with a tool. I was already a bit frustrated since at the point I removed the bags, I already knew about the loctite.
 
I definitely could have gotten the brackets off without completely removing the bags, but I didn't want to work in a tight space and risk hitting a painted surface with a tool. I was already a bit frustrated since at the point I removed the bags, I already knew about the loctite.
Probably the smarter way to do it. I’m generally lazy and occasionally lucky.
 
Probably the smarter way to do it. I’m generally lazy and occasionally lucky.
I would typically look for the most efficient way as well. As it was, I think I may have invented some new curse words. The icing on the cake, is that the grinder got into a couple of the flat areas on the supports. Now I get to strip them back down to bare metal, add some body filler, sand it back smooth, and repaint. Did I mention this should have been a 15 minute job....
 
Has anyone tried PB Blaster to loosen up Loctite?
PB Blaster, Liquid Wrench, etc, none of those will break loctite loose. There's not enough contact once its in the threads. This is especially true of the red variety. Heat above 550 degrees F is typically what it takes to start to breakdown the red stuff. Blue loctite can be broken with tools. Green loctite is similar in strength to the blue stuff but can be applied to fasteners that are already torqued. It will wick itself into the threads.
 
So today I decided to install the luggage rack that came with my bike. I bought my R18 used and it already had the Road Styler backrest installed. It had the luggage rack, but it was uninstalled. I'm thinking this is maybe a 15 minute exercise, after all, its only four bolts in and out. Or so I thought.

My first indication that something was wrong was that all four of the Allen bolts were slightly wallowed out and the nuts were very difficult to loosen. I was able to get one of the nuts off only to find that the previous owner had liberally applied red loctite to the nut. With the nut off, I tried to back out the Allen bolt and it was stuck solidly in place. It appeared that the bolt got a pretty generous application of red loctite where it threaded through the upright for the backrest.

About two hours later, with the assistance of a torch, I have everything disassembled. I had to heat the remaining nuts to get them off with a wrench. The bolts could not be removed with an Allen wrench, so I had to grind off the bolt head with an angle grinder and a flap wheel. Once the head was off the bolt, the remaining stud could be removed with heat and a pipe wrench.

The torch destroyed the powder coat, so I had to sand down and feather the powder coat to get it ready to be painted. I had to order an M8 x 1.25 tap so the threads in the back rest frame could be re-tapped. That won't be here until tomorrow. In the mean time, I've repainted the parts and they will be ready for reassembly tomorrow when the tap gets here. Also, a trip to the hardware store set me back $64 to get the necessary chrome and stainless hardware to reassemble everything.

The moral of the story, don't use red loctite on anything that you ever plan to disassemble. Blue loctite holds great and it can be disassembled with hand tools. As a side note, the bags had to come off to get this work done. In order to get the bags off, the seat had to be removed and multiple zip ties cut. BMW needs to spend some time looking at how Harley Davidson and Indian attach backrests and tour packs. As much as I love my R18, this is a glaring missed opportunity for BMW. It would be very nice if they would design and offer a docking solution.
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Previous owner was a moron, using red. Ron White said it best "You can't fix stupid".
 
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